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Sheila Pepe on European Armor

This episode is part of The Artist Project, a series in which artists respond to works of art in The Met collection.
I'm looking for, even in the hardest edges, a craftsman's relationship to the object that they're making.

My name is Sheila Pepe and I'm an artist.

For the past fifteen years I've been crocheting and knitting monumental installations, most of which were ephemeral. This gallery in particular is not a logical place for me. It's the antithesis of my work in so many ways: it's hard, it's made with a lot of fire, it's about battle.

But, you know, when I was younger, knights in shining armor had a kind of popular appeal. And I, as a child, had this obsession with Walt Disney's Sword in the Stone. I would literally project myself into the space inside of that form. And then as a young adult after coming out, they become a kind of perfect place of—for me—gender identification. I can't avoid that being a part of my own kind of fantasy life about these things.

As a maker of things I adore the metalwork, the engineering, the forms. It is a kind of fashion as well as a protective device, you know, and the later they get in their evolution the more fashionable, the more exciting the fashion is. The forms, especially the Germanic forms—the widening toe, some of the helmets—they look like crazy animals.

Since I came to New York it's my default location to go and draw because it really articulates a moving body. It gives you all these kind of machine parts to draw. It puts all of that skeletal stuff on the outside, even though it's a different kind of skeleton: something that's both machine, animal, and human, and a kind of cyborg.

But it also has taken the form, for me, of following the stories of how things get made and craft. And the little gestures that the makers put in to talk to each other that most wouldn't see, and the way they would handle a hinge, or the way that one thing gets to attach to another. And there's a certain kind of handling of the metal that is just so lovely and loving, you know, in a way that somebody might follow the brushstroke on the surface of a painting. I'm looking for, even in the hardest edges, a craftsman's relationship to the object that they're making.

It's not a logical place for me. You know, the feminist would say this is a really good sign of how men fetishize war, but I'm also aware that I can fetishize it too.


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Sheila Pepe, born in 1959, is an American artist whose work employs conceptualism, surrealism, and craft to address feminist issues.


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Armor for Man and Horse Presumably Made for Baron Pankraz von Freyberg (1508–1565), Wolfgang Grosschedel  German, Steel; leather, copper alloy, textile, German, Landshut
Armorer Wolfgang Grosschedel
man's armor, ca. 1535–40; horse armor, dated 1554; saddle steels, later restorations
Jousting Armor (<i>Rennzeug</i>) 
and Matching Half-Shaffron, Steel, copper alloy, leather, German, probably Dresden or Annaberg
German, probably Dresden or Annaberg
ca. 1580–90
Armor of Emperor Ferdinand I (1503–1564), Kunz Lochner  German, Steel, brass, leather, German, Nuremberg
Armorer Kunz Lochner
dated 1549
Armor for Man and Horse, Kunz Lochner  German, Steel, leather, copper alloy, textile, German, Nuremberg
Armorer Kunz Lochner
dated 1548, with later restorations
Armor for Man and Horse, Steel, gold, leather, copper alloy, textile, Italian, probably Milan
Italian, probably Milan
man's armor, ca. 1575 and later; horse armor, ca. 1560 and later
Field Armor, Steel, leather, German, Nuremberg
German, Nuremberg
ca. 1525; left arm defense, 19th century; rondels, 1923
Armor, Steel, leather, German, possibly Brunswick
German, possibly Brunswick
ca. 1535